That said, they can't be ignored and I am going to have to engage in some mangina bashing now, but I will preface my comments by saying that women are evil and worthless and are the true villians.
Aight, here's the deal. On Feministing there was this article about some ho who was sexually assaulted in a bar. What makes this different from the typical sexual assault is that the other guys in the bar either cheered on the act or ignored it. Supposedly this proves that women are opressed or that all men are rapist or that... well, I'm not exactly sure what it is supposed to prove but you get the idea. Here are select mangina comments in bold:
Hmm... I like to think that I'd do something in that situation, but I have never really been there myself. Some kid did pull a pocketknife on me in elementary school. As I recall I laughed it off and walked away; but that was just some kid on the schoolyard that I knew, not a stranger in a bar.
Closest is when a woman I go to school with caught up to me outside the train after having some guy grope her and follow her off the car (we were all going to a field trip that day, just recently). It is the only time I've made a serious and sincere offer to beat somebody, which in retrospect I'm not too proud of.
The guy did have a knife in this case, and that does change things... but as pointed out, it is a bar with plenty of heavy things around to swing about. I actually know a bit about defending against a knife and how to swing heavy things about to do some damage, but it's all in the head.
What I guess I'm trying to say is it's not something you know how you're going to react to until you're in the situation. Sitting back and laughing... that is something I can say for sure I wouldn't do.
Posted by: Matthew
Wow, what a flaming mangina. You threatened to beat another guy up on the say so of a woman? What a huge douche you are. He is now saying he isn't "proud" of his gayness but I suspect he probably is but just knew that such talk would not be well taken by the woman posters. Posts like this make me actually feel bad for feminists because they have to tolerate patronizing jackasses like this clown.
I've been in a situation similar to this before (though not with a knife as a potential weapon), and my experience was that if you at least challenge or confront the attacker, then other men will normally follow, or at least back you up if you are genuinely trying to stop this type of situation.
For all of them to just sit there and (presumably) keep drinking their beer without doing or say anything doesn't suggest a lot to me other than the fact they just didn't give a shit.
Posted by: Al
Give this mangina props for his straight shooting approach. It is correct and he is at least implying that the other men in the bar did the right thing by not coming to the woman's aid. Remember, never side with a woman over a man! That's the rule.
"So, there is this lockerroom trick where you get a guys underwear off of him without taking his pants off. It is not a sexual thing at all. Rough, humilating hazing, yes. Sexual, no. It just looked like this might be like that. If in the main article, she wouldn't even talk to the guy afterward, then not a friendly thing."
Perhaps you are missing the point that even male on male, unwanted contact could be legally considered battery. Even the threat of contact would be assault. Boys injuring or even killing another playing "pro wrestler" at home is also not considered a joke.
Maybe you would understand how being interested in a woman's panties (ie opposite gender) or removing them at knifepoint, makes it sexual. A sexual assault. This will be aided by her statement and testimony. I hope she makes it that far.
Yeah, I guess it was unfriendly. Hence the arrests and charges. The police seem to believe her, even if some men here do not. I really hope your daughters never have "jokey" "friends" like these. I have a daughter. I would track them down and kill them.
Posted by: A male
This guy is such a mangina he is actually posting under the name "a male". What a loser. He is also openly admitting he would side with his daughters over a man who rapes them. Not acceptable. If my sister ever got raped she would know better than to come to me for help because I know that most rapes are imaginary and that she is just trying to frame an innocent man. It is pathetic how willing men are to sell out other men for the benifit of women.
I'm a bartender, and the bar I work at can be pretty rough and tumble, and you know, I simply cannot believe that this woman would simply sit back and watch an assault happen. Like other posters have said, it is her JOB to keep order in the bar, and that's why tough feminist chicks like myself seem to be best for the job. At the very least she should have called the police, while telling the attackers that's what she was doing. In my experience, sometimes all you need to do to calm people down is pick up the damn phone. As for having to deal with those customers again, that kind of behavior is absolutely grounds for being 86'd for life. The bartender is the figure of authority in the bar, and usually people listen to me no matter how heated they are. And if they don't, and I don't have a bouncer in, I call the police. It works every time.
Posted by: Alexandra
Tough feminist chicks like herself? Jesus, what a bunch of bullshit. Yeah it takes a lot of balls to call the police or the bouncer. What a dumb ass ho.
Men don't help women because they just don't give a shit about women. The guys here who are trying to make it seem like a joke---88 or whomever---would probably be right there, cheering or blaming if it happened in front of them, unless it was their 'property.' Guys care what other guys think about them. They don't give a shit about women at all.
Posted by: ginmar
The triumphant return of ginmar! Seriously, this chick must have even less of a life I do since she seems to make about 100 posts a day each on about 50 different blogs. As for her point: if only it were so, Ginny. If only it were so.
Been away for awhile, being hit by a car and breaking your neck doesn't leave you up for being online, but, I have to comment here on a few things.
First, a whole article is rarely posted to this blog, BUT the link to the whole article ALWAYS is, if you want to read, go and read it.
Second, sexual assault is not funny when it is committed by a man against a woman, man against a man, woman against a woman, or woman against a man. If this had happened to a man, I would be the first one to stand up and say that it was fucked up.
I have a male friend who was raped by a woman. He is too ashamed to tell anyone but me for fear of being made fun of and that makes me sad. No one deserves that.
Posted by: SassyGirl
A woman cannot rape a man. Your friend is a lying sack of shit who was probably a woman in a past life.
Sorry the last two posts weren't manginas, I can never stay on topic. Feministing really needs to ban male posters, they are either ultra mangina's or idiots who are always like, "men get raped too!" as if anyone didn't know that. One problem with anti-feminism is that a lot of anti feminists have no real understanding of the ideology they claim to be against.